Other Citywire websites

Mouté: QE2 to cause another gold boom

Star US equity manager François Mouté says the gold price will go 'much much higher' as a result of QE2, believing the rise could be similar to the gold bull market of 1971 to 1980. 

by Philip Haddon on Nov 18, 2010 at 07:01

Mouté: QE2 to cause another gold boom

Star US equity manager François Mouté says the gold price will go 'much much higher' as a result of QE2, believing the rise could be similar to the gold bull market of 1971 to 1980.

Mouté has long been a gold bull, and his US equity funds BNP Paribas L1 Opportunities USA  and Neuflize USA Opportunites  have benefited greatly from a huge overweight in the sector in recent years. But now he feels US policy has given him more confidence in his stance than ever.

'The latest statements from Ben Bernanke vindicate our position,' he told Citywire. 'He indicated the solution was growth in nominal GDP. Nominal is the key word, and to grow it quickly you need inflation. There is no question it will cause more inflation. It is something I have been saying for years, but it obviously carries more weight when Bernanke says it.'

He points out that the bond market has reacted negatively to QE2, despite its goal of buying back treasury securities to drive long term bond yields down. 'I do not think QE2 will succeed in bringing long term rates down. They can set interest rates, but the bond market is too big for them to control,' Mouté said.

He said the 'icing on the cake' for his investment strategy was when Robert Zoellick, president of the World Bank, recently said that it is logical for gold to once again be used an important indicator for monetary policy.

'This was a strong vindication for our long term policy and view that gold will go much, much higher,' Mouté said, adding that when compared to its historical price versus the level of debt creation, gold is very cheap.

'In order to use gold as a solution to the monetary problem, it will need to be much higher in price. Between 1971 and 1980, the price of gold went from $35 to $850. That gives you an idea of the kind of moves which could be ahead of us. The move has already started, but it is far from over. It will go a lot higher for a long time, but not in a straight line.'

Meanwhile, Mouté is bearish on his outlook for Europe - as well as for the US. He thinks that after the Greek crisis, far too many people thought that was the end of Europe's debt problems, but it was only the start of a domino effect which has now included Ireland and Portugal. Germany has to bear a huge burden in keeping the euro afloat, he thinks.

'One has to recognise that the island of prosperity that is Germany is becoming very isolated. It doesn't bode well for Europe. The euro is so political that it is beyond rational economic analysis. Speaking rationally, the euro should cease to exist, but it was a political construction from the start and so the fate of the euro will be a political one and not an economic one.'

Despite gold taking up a large portion of Mouté's portfolio, he is also investing in US-based firms which can continue to benefit from Asian growth, without suffering too much from the sluggish economies of the West. Minig machinery firm Bucyrus International is one such stock which has served him well, and this week became a takeover target of Caterpillar.

Mouté is ranked second out of 182 managers in the US equity sector over five years, having returned 47.3% while the average manager in the sector returned just 2.6%. He is A-rated by Citywire for his risk-adjusted performance.

7 comments so far. Why not have your say?

Andrew Baker

Nov 18, 2010 at 09:40

It's good to see someone else with similar thoughts to oneself. Gold has been and is a longer term hold for me plus there are a lot of US firms, especially tech, imho, that will grow as a result of their product such as mobile computing/telecoms, the cloud, and greater sales due to a weak dollar and especially into emerged and emerging markets.

report this

Banged to Rights

Nov 18, 2010 at 09:52

"The euro is so political that it is beyond rational economic analysis. Speaking rationally, the euro should cease to exist, but it was a political construction from the start and so the fate of the euro will be a political one and not an economic one.'

Well said and much else besides as well as his thoughts on Gold.

report this

chestnuts

Nov 18, 2010 at 10:36

My thoughts entirely, Gold will be good, but silver will be better, but the best thing to buy are the miners ,like Petrovavski, or Hamboldon mining and for a silver miner Hochilds all way undervalued but the leverage play on the miners out ways the leverage on gold and silver by quite a few times.

report this

Andrew Baker

Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46

I agree with silver, and also palladium and platinum. Also the Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (NYSE:GDX) is a good holding, imho.

report this

Joel Dee

Nov 18, 2010 at 10:47

Nothing original. Very much talking his book. Everything is to go on as before, but the negative reaction to QE2 pumping up the global markets looks to be wanting and may be a game changer. Add the fact that the PIMCOs of the world are front running the Fed by selling bonds and the line-in-the-sand for bond rates becoming uncontrolable is therefore very near. The Fed is up against it.

Should his scenario for US stocks play, what of the currency risk implied by a falling dollar? - rather than buy US Global stocks, all but in name located in Europe and Asia, why not just buy the same Global European and Asean stocks with less currency risk and solvent banks. Most people would rather deal with domestic nationals first.

As for gold, if his scenario for the dollar falling does not play--well, we all know the rest. Investors follow the tape, economists look to the past, and he nor I really know anything about how market attitudes will play in the future.

report this

Andrew Baker

Nov 18, 2010 at 11:37

Many of the best tech stocks with very high growth potential are based in the US. It's a lot harder to find European and Asian stocks in that league. Plus, who knows what the dollar will do going forward: it's down now, so US stocks are comparatively cheaper. Their growth should more than compensate for any further dollar weakness, plus in the event the dollar improves going forward, then there will be a currency gain bonus too.

report this

kenneth malloy

Nov 18, 2010 at 16:51

Gold miners and physical gold etf are 20% of my portfolio for the long term.

report this

leave a comment

Please sign in here or register here to comment. It is free to register and only takes a minute or two.

Today's top headlines


  • Our unique quantitative methodology goes where no fund manager ratings have gone before
  • Citywire Global Community
  • Visit Citywire Euro Stars - The guide to Europe's top rated fund managers
  • Citywire Global Multimedia Page
  • Citywire rated managers: our guide to the best fund managers

More about this:

Look up the funds

  • BNP Paribas L1 Opportunities USA C C
    Register or Sign in to receive email alerts for items in your favourites whenever we write about them
  • Neuflize USA Opportunites USD AC
    Register or Sign in to receive email alerts for items in your favourites whenever we write about them

Look up the fund managers

  • François Mouté
    Register or Sign in to receive email alerts for items in your favourites whenever we write about them

More from us

What others are saying

Archive

Sorry, this link is not
quite ready yet