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Can the US now avoid a double dip?
After a bright start to the year in which double dip fears were all but erased, the US economy appears to be stuttering again. Are the ingredients in place for a double dip?
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More FTSE charts & pricesby Matthew Goodburn on Aug 26, 2010 at 00:01
After a bright start to the year in which double dip fears were all but erased, the US economy appears to be stuttering again.Are the ingredients now in place for the much talked about double dip?
The slowdown that started in the second quarter has now continued into the third, with stubbornly high unemployment and a raft of poor data from the housing market to worse than expected manufacturing output weighing on investor sentiment.
The latest US numbers are forcing many commentators to revise their economic estimates for the country downwards closer to levels where a double dip is possible.
Anaemic growth ahead
Capital Economics anticipates that US GDP growth will fall this year from around 2.7% to around 2% - and for similar numbers at best for both 2011 and 2012.
Employment numbers are a continuing worry. After an increase in jobs by around 150,000 per month in the first quarter, private sector employment grew far less than anticipated in the second quarter - by just 50,000 in each of the three months to the end of July.
And manufacturing productivity appears to have run out of steam too. Core US durable goods orders all but collapsed in July, despite huge orders from Boeing for new aircraft. Equally concerning is the fact that imports are rising at a faster rate than exports.
Trade deficit to widen
With a lot of commentators predicting a strengthening dollar in the months ahead, the country’s yawning trade deficit is likely to widen faster- and the latest unexpected surge in imports is causing consternation in some quarters.
Capital Economics is one. It says: 'Previously, we had expected export growth to outpace import growth, with net external trade making a broadly neutral contribution to GDP growth. However, what happened in the second quarter has forced us to abandon that view. Import growth accelerated to close to 30% at an annualised pace, while export growth eased to around 10%.'
Chinese trade war
Moreover the group predicts a trade war with China could be a distinct possibility in the not too distant future as politicians look to more protectionist measures as interst rates look to stay low for at least the next two years and most experts predict the dollar will strengthen.
Capital Economics warns: 'Despite the unusually weak recovery, the trade deficit has already widened markedly. Congress will not stand for this for much longer if the unemployment rate remains so high. The other main implication of our forecasts is that we could soon see Congress adopt trade restrictions against China.'
'The initial rebound in imports last year was driven by a turnaround in shipments of industrial supplies, which was consistent with the turnaround in inventories and the rebound in manufacturing. Now, however, despite the weakness of domestic demand, we are seeing a hard to explain surge in finished goods imports.'
Slowing export growth
It predicts that US export growth will continue to slow and that an eventual fall in US imports will not make up the difference- especially as it anticipates a strengthening dollar while and many European exporters -in particular Germany- have already put fiscal measures in place.
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an elder one
Aug 26, 2010 at 11:07
I wish people would stop waffling on with this fatuous term 'double dip' as though it were some sort of mythical monster, it's in the nature of living things to oscillate one way and the other; from time to time the oscillations will be of increased amplitude. When is a dip not a dip, or a double dip. In finance these oscillations are a reflection of human sentiment and uncertain judgement when they are not of a deliberate contrivance for short term gain. Whatever it is, the matter will become self-fulfilling if we don't stop banging-on about it.
report thisJohn Kenyon
Aug 26, 2010 at 11:32
Oh wise Elder One (totally agree), and why why is'nt there a minimum age for our political leaders of say 50 or 55 and make all upper age limits illegal (so long as 'compos mentis' of course)??!
report thisS Singh
Aug 26, 2010 at 11:47
I seriously doubt that western economies actually came out of recession in the first place.
report thisjoe stalin
Aug 26, 2010 at 12:01
Double dip is what the scumsters running the bond markets would dearly like to see so that they can clean up. The media rating agencies and most of the muppets asked to comment seem to be encouraged to spout their absurd garbage at every opportunity in an effeort the undermine sentiment. Earnings are good companies have bolstred their balance sheets and have become leaner and more competitive. The US needs to come to terms with the fact that widgets are now manufactured in China. Obama and his advisors are out of their depth and hopefully come November we will see some of these buffoons out of office so that we can get some more knowledgable people in to make some of the decisions needed to take us foward. Time to put the likes of Rogers, Roubini, Soros et al back in the nut house
report thisRussell
Aug 26, 2010 at 12:11
A recession is 2 quarters of negative GDP in a row chaps... Not a minor statistical anomale caused by fashionable terminology (which some are too staid to adapt to).
Furthermore, our new and young cabinet are doing a bloody good job, as evidenced by the sterling appreciation triggered by our recent no nonsense budget.
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report thisKeith Snell
Aug 26, 2010 at 12:13
Of course the US economy will stutter with their current leadership, increasing public expenditure is precisely the opposite of that required to start reducing their very silly amounts of borrowing. The current policies do noy automatically lead to world recession, they just hinder recovery which will eventualy happen despite the daft amount of US public borrowing and costs of unecessary wars.
report thisAlcatel
Aug 26, 2010 at 12:35
Western economies are in a recession in spite of what the economists- (they are paid to tell the public things are gloomy !) - and newspapers -( they want to sell more newspapers!!( predict 2% growth!! how about 8-10 in Southeast Asia?
The Economists and newspapers should go to the shopfloor- shopping centers to see where is the recession!!
report thisbarz
Aug 26, 2010 at 13:14
its hard to see any way out of this mess which if i am right was created in the USA with the sub prime nonsense allowed by Bush and his co hortes(little we hear of them nowadays)they should be broght befoe a people court and sent to the gullags for as long as possible.Oh and take any of these other free marketeers with them as well,mention no names.
report thisWilliam Bishop
Aug 26, 2010 at 15:36
Probably a "severe growth slowdown", defined as less than 2% growth for at leats two quarters, but not a double dip. There is a dilemma - the US consumer, mired in housing-related debt and weak employment prospects, can no longer perform his traditional function of leading the economic recovery, and there is a lack of equivalent-sized dynamics in other sectors. Longer run, the economy needs to rebalance away from excessive consumption, but too much too soon in this direction would mean ongoing stagnation. On balance, maybe things will just about scrape along in some kind of middle-road scenario, but it ain't going to be an easy drive.
report thischazza
Aug 26, 2010 at 16:44
I cannot understand why, with US interest rates likely to remain on the floor for years, and US trade deficit widening, the USD should be expected to rise in value. Worries about the Euro seem hysterical since even if one or two weak links are snipped from the chain, the greater part of Europe will remain wedded to the Euro. Even the GBP looks good value compared with USD.
report thissnoekie
Aug 26, 2010 at 17:34
It is in the interests of the US to keep interest rates low because the demand on the government will then be less (less interest to pay on borrowing).
I guess many people will disagree with me, but the finances of a country are not that much different from household finances. If you overspend, you cannot continue spending your way out of debt, you merely add to the problem.
The difference between household spending and the spending of the nation is that the idiots at the top have little idea of how to run a budget, and they always have the peasants available to make up any shortfall by increased taxation, and lower living standards but heaven forfend if their personal finances, "rewards" are reduced because of their dismal and/or incompetent handling of the budgets.
Incidentally, in writing this article, the spell checker should have been used, but wasn't. I doubt if anybody even seriously re-read the article. "euro will fall back to parity with the dollar" makes absolutely no sense. It isn't the euro that will fall back, but the dollar and a notional, I say notional, advance of the euro to parity with the dollar. The reality is that the dollar has been devalued by printing money.
report thisAlan john
Aug 26, 2010 at 20:40
I am not so worried about the slow growth in the US and in Europe(it comes and goes) but more by the huge debts that the US and Europe are facing.The situation in Europe is really worrying, it would take very little for a cataclysm to be triggered and then the all economic world would disintegrate
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