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HSBC may leave the UK if forced to split
HSBC's head of investment banking says if the UK decides banks must split their businesses in two his bank may decide to relocate.
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More FTSE charts & pricesby Deborah Hyde on Sep 03, 2010 at 09:39
HSBC has hinted it may consider moving its headquarters overseas if a commission on banking reform recommends banks split their investment banking arms from their retail operations.
HSBC's head of investment banking Stuart Gulliver told a conference on banking he is ‘genuinely concerned’ that banks will be forced to split their businesses, which he said would have ‘significant implications’ for where HSBC chooses to locate its headquarters, currently in Canary Wharf.
HSBC’s chairman Stephen Green has already warned that unilateral rules could mean London will become less attractive than rival cities such as Hong Kong and Zurich, while Angela Knight, chief executive of the banking lobby group British Bankers' Association, has warned that would mean the UK could lose billions in tax revenues.
In June chancellor George Osborne announced that the head of the Office of Fair Trading, John Vickers, will head up a commission to consider whether any banking industry reforms are necessary to prevent a re-run of the financial crisis.
As well as looking at increasing competition and reducing the risks and impacts of bank failures the commission will consider how much competitive advantage large banks get ‘from being perceived as too big to fail’.
But bankers have repeatedly said that while there are many lessons to be learned from the financial crisis there has been little evidence that size mattered.
Barclays’ chief executive John Varley has said historical data shows that bigger, more complex banks are not more likely to fail.
‘The evidence from the last 100 years is clear. By converting broad banks into narrow banks we will make the system less safe not more safe,’ he said earlier this year.
HSBC - which employs 50,000 staff in the UK - refused money offered by the UK government at the peak of the crisis and was relatively unscathed by the crisis thanks to its focus on Asia.
In January this year chief executive Michael Geoghegan relocated to Hong Kong but the bank said this reflected the rising importance of the Asian market and was not the start of a large scale move.
And yesterday Gulliver pointed out the bank's preference 'is to be headquartered in the UK.'
Bruce Packard, banking analyst at Seymour Pierce, has warned that the vociferous opposition from the banks to proposals to split them up means they may be missing a trick, saying that break-ups could create value and pointing out that the deposits guarantee by the UK government is too good to shun.
‘We believe that management who ‘grasp the nettle’ and do what the regulators and politicians want are more likely to create shareholder value,’ he said.
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John robert
Sep 03, 2010 at 11:53
An excellent idea. Especially if HSBC is split. That way shareholder value would be increased.
In spite of its size HSBC has done very little for its owners in the last ten years.
report thisPeter J
Sep 03, 2010 at 12:02
A very good point from John Robert!!!
How do the shareholders benefit from these vast integrated banks?
When are we going to hear some about some Bank directors looking after their shareholder's interests? The problem is that most of the Directors are members of the cosy financial services mates club.
report thisJohn robert
Sep 03, 2010 at 15:22
As it happens I used to work for HSBC. The UK operations are only a small part of its operations. About 10% of profits last time I looked.
It set up its Head Office in the UK because of the change of Hong Kong as a British Colony and also, it is said although never admitted to my knowledge, as UK government requirement for it to take over Midland Bank.
So the fact is HSBC is not a British bank. It is a multi lateral bank with the domicile of its holding company in the UK. British residents are well under 50% of its shareholder base.
However, management has already moved to Hong Kong.
There are many companies such as HSBC. BP for instance. They can locate their holding company almost anywhere. Countries have to compete to persuade them where to locate their Head Office.
To which I say that is as it should be.
report thisGraham Williams
Sep 03, 2010 at 16:31
If they move then shareholders and account holders should vote with thier feet and give them the elbow. There are other banks to do business with and better shares to invest in.
report thisRajah Brookes
Sep 03, 2010 at 16:33
Most people still perceive banks to be looking after their money...keeping it safe. Few understand that they are loaning the bank money to speculate with, and as such they are exposing their hard-earned money to a degree of risk. With that in mind I don't think banks have any right to be taking massively leveraged bets with depositors savings. Let them go and become too big to fail somewhere else if they insist on doing so.
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