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Morning Line: What next after axing the 65 default retirement age?

With the age 65 rule now set for retirement, it’s finally time for a proper debate on how we fund our old age.

by Tony Bonsignore on Jul 14, 2009 at 11:28

The government yesterday finally announced its intention to scrap the 65 default retirement age. And about time too.

In 2009 – with increasing longevity and a deepening pension crisis, not to mention a widespread commitment to fight discrimination of all kinds – the 65 rule is a glaring anachronism. The only surprise is that it has lasted so long.

The real challenge, however, will be deciding what to replace it with in the long term. And on that topic there is nothing close to a consensus yet emerging, which is unsurprising given the complex and contentious issues ultimately at stake.

At one level the debate is about fairness and equality and in this context the case for scrapping mandatory retirement rules altogether is overwhelming.

Why should an employer be allowed to discriminate on the basis of age when it is not allowed to on race or gender? The answer is that they shouldn’t. There will be important exceptions, certainly - for example in jobs which require a certain level of physical fitness or require a long period of expensive training - but in general the principle of non-discrimination holds good.

For many older workers, meanwhile, the prospect of choosing to work into their 70s and 80s is an appealing one. They feel fit enough; the extra money is welcome; and they still feel they have something to contribute to the economy and to broader society. Besides, for many millions retirement is something to avoided for as long as possible, as it is often accompanied by a more rapid decline in physical and mental health.

On another level, however, the debate is one about the future shape of the UK labour market, and particularly the ‘flexibility’ which the government and employers have trumpeted for so long. To quote the Confederation of British Industry directly: ‘Having a default retirement age helps staff begin the process of deciding when it is right to retire, and helps firms plan ahead with more confidence.’

The key point here is the second one: employers want to retain the ability to axe staff when they see fit, whether that is because they are past their prime or because of broader pressures on costs. This in turn touches on the sensitive accusation that some firm are using the current downturn as an excuse to fire more expensive elderly employees.

More broadly, meanwhile, the debate over the default retirement age goes to the heart of the growing pension crisis in the UK economy, and the dawning realisation that the golden age of UK pensions is long past, almost certainly never to return.

The fundamental problem is a simple one: an aging population pretending that it is still young, and relying on a pension infrastructure designed for more youthful and prosperous times.

Once employers could be relied upon to provide generous final salary pension schemes for their employees; these days private-sector employees are lucky if they get a half decent defined contribution scheme. The reason they used to provide such generous benefits is that they had to - it was the only way to attract the best staff. Today there is no such pressure on them, except at the most senior levels, and only government regulations force them to provide for their employees’ retirement.

The state pension, meanwhile, has taken an almighty hammering over the past two decades, especially after the link with average earnings was cut. Labour has made some effort to improve conditions for the poorest pensioners, but its efforts have been hampered by economic pressures, not to mention its own ill-thought through policies such as the scrapping of advance corporation tax (ACT).

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10 comments so far. Why not have your say?

Nelly The Elephant

Jul 14, 2009 at 13:48

Another topic that requires radical ideas to resolve.

How about I start the ball rolling:-

Anyone over 65 can be employed on a casual basis, cash in hand, no red tape, no tax or other out goings but restrict the hours to say 20 hours a week.

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Greg Kingston

Jul 14, 2009 at 14:48

Why on earth are we considering replacing full blown discrimination with partial discrimination?

Employment should be based on capability to do the job. If you can't do it, whether you're 25 or 75, then you're either retrained or you are managed out or leave and find a more suitable job.

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Nelly The Elephant

Jul 14, 2009 at 19:07

Another topic that requires radical ideas to resolve.

How about I start the ball rolling:-

Anyone over 65 can be employed on a casual basis, cash in hand, no red tape, no tax or other out goings but restrict the hours to say 20 hours a week.

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Steven

Jul 14, 2009 at 20:41

I dont why this is, in teh west they see such "limited roles" for our elderly folk.

e.g.: When your this age, your supposed to be this way that and other

And when your at another age ranger youve "got to retire".

What silly and amusing waste of talent and ability...in a country whose goverment and industry leaders have claimed over teh lats 10 years that there arent enough skilled people entering into this that and otehr profession.

Alot of our "old folk" have skills from many decades and experiences from many historical events such as teh wars of our pasts.

As long as people are able, fit and willing to commit to a job why shouldnt they be?

Cant believe its taken the MPs this long to realise it (or have they yet...)

Bosses complain about "oh todays modern youth are uncommitted and only dream of being on "Big brother or becoming Jordans"...well why dont they take a look at theyre more elderly folk..many many of which are very fit live n kicking as yet.

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Michael Hellman

Jul 14, 2009 at 20:57

About time, ban the retirement age. Other countries have a higher age for retirement or like the USA non at all. But whatever you look at this we will have to provide more for ourselves, there is no way around it

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Nelly The Elephant

Jul 14, 2009 at 22:31

Another topic that requires radical ideas to resolve.

How about I start the ball rolling:-

Anyone over 65 can be employed on a casual basis, cash in hand, no red tape, no tax or other out goings but restrict the hours to say 20 hours a week.

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Terence Brown

Jul 15, 2009 at 09:18

"For many older workers the prospect of choosing to work into their 70's and 80's is an appealing one"

A halfwit comment - no further discussion required.

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paul harrison

Jul 15, 2009 at 20:33

How can it be right for the over 65s to takejobs that should be done by people

with families to support.

Many of those over 65 already have

works pensions and the state pension - if

they want to work their is plenty of voluntary

jobs they can do.When all the under 65s

have work thats the time for the over 65s

to carry on working.

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Jeffrey Roberts

Jul 16, 2009 at 13:45

Reference Terence Brown.

Further discussion is needed. It is a nonsense for people to "retire" at a given age, whether 65 or even later. If the skills have been updated and their is satisfaction in the job being done i.e.financial or personal, people should be allowed to continue.

A gradual retirement over a period of time, seems to me to be a suitable solution. Attitudes to the ageing process need to be reviewed.

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Penelope Dudley

Jul 17, 2009 at 10:04

Jeffery's comment:....."a gradual retirement over a period of time, seems to me to be a suitable solution. Attitudes to the ageing process need to be reviewed"

I am with you 100% on this

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