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Smart Investor: why I'm a value investor
Although it's currently out of fashion, value investing is incredibly simple and can be used successfully by anyone, argues Smart Investor.
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In the years before the credit crunch, when house prices were going up, stock markets were going up and GDP was (you guessed it) going up, various financial services professionals claimed they had developed methods of investing that offered little risk and a generous return.
They claimed that their financial models would churn out winner after winner in any market conditions, and talked about systematic risk, alpha, beta, absolute return and various other fashionable ideas.
However, all the talk was nothing but hot air. The recent performance of Man Group (EMG.L) has showed that their ‘black box’ was more of a ‘red box’, and it has performed in a similar fashion to many non-hedge fund peers. It appears as though Man is still some way from creating circumstances where risk and return are not closely correlated – except perhaps where risk is high and returns low, that is.
No such thing as a sure thing
It appears to me that man is no closer to finding a water-tight method of investing than he was 100 years ago. Sure, information travels much faster, is more accurate and more transparent than ever before, and computer programs can back-test various methodologies and simulate possible future returns. However, there remains a subjective element which must be filled by a human being.
For example, I could quite easily come up with a ‘new’ method of investing that would have outperformed the stock market for the past five years. It would not take long to do this. I would firstly look at which sectors have beaten the market over the period and pick a few stocks from each and, hey presto, I have a market-beating method of picking stocks.
However, the future is not the same as the past, and to pick certain shares because they have done well in the past is illogical. The infamous saying that ‘trend is your friend, until the end’ should really be more like ‘the trend is not your friend, it is merely a dead end’.
Data mining
As I learnt as a schoolboy, there is such a thing as data mining. This is essentially where you generate a method based on data available, thereby guaranteeing a successful theoretical method, as opposed to testing the data available on a pre-specified method. Therefore, before you waste time attempting to come up with some method that apparently works based on the past, I suggest you consider an alternative.
That alternative is called value investing, and has been around for some time. It is out of fashion currently, probably because it is incredibly simple and, with a little effort, can be used successfully by anyone. When I say anyone, I really do mean anyone who has a small amount of time, can read and use a calculator.
Of course, there are various other factors to consider before checking whether a company’s shares are cheap. Things such as financial soundness, return on equity, economic moats and other factors are hugely important. However, as with any investment, the price at which you buy is crucial. Pay too much – even for a very attractive asset – and you are unlikely to make much of a return.
Value investing for all
Value investing is not complicated and, moreover, there is no right or wrong; all value investors will have different views as to whether a company is trading at a reasonable price or not.
This is important because value investing is not merely about having a target buying price for shares in a company. It also lets you know when to sell, when to move between different asset classes and, moreover, takes a lot of the emotion out of investing.
Furthermore, value investing takes you out of the herd and provides you with a simple, straightforward means of generating profit on your capital over the long run. Doesn’t that sound better than puzzling over beta, alpha, top-down analysis and the various other fashionable ideas? If you are in any doubt, just ask Warren how rich he is and how he got there.
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10 comments so far. Why not have your say?
Moylando
May 15, 2012 at 14:56
You do a good job of destroying the myth of a "good thing" and then trot out one of your own !
report thisAnonymous 1 needed this 'off the record'
May 15, 2012 at 15:23
Haha what a moronic article.
"It appears as though Man is still some way from creating circumstances where risk and return are not closely correlated"
Suppose you've found a way to separate the two then?
report thisThe ssinnic
May 15, 2012 at 16:47
Don't you think all these investment "theories" come apart in one tug when a rogue employee does a foolish trade! Just ask JP Morgan if proof were needed.There's no science in invesment just a good feel for the subject as Warren Buffet will confirm!
report thisDonald Chan
May 15, 2012 at 20:05
That's it then. Sorted.
report thisDennis .
May 15, 2012 at 21:32
So how do we apply this methodology to facebook?
report thisDennis .
May 15, 2012 at 21:35
The thing that always amazes me about the stock market is that people talk about beating the market whereas they forget that WE are the market so if you have a system the best thing to do is not tell anyone about it.
report thisynys
May 15, 2012 at 21:52
If the share price takes account of all. Then no one share should offer better value than another.
report thisNimblenod
May 16, 2012 at 10:20
The sub- title of this article is misleading and the article itself is a lot of waffle.
Value investing (whatever that may mean) out of fashion?
When did you last invest on a philanthropic basis ?
report thisJaygor
May 16, 2012 at 10:45
I can't say I learnt anything new from the article, but then I am a novice investor anyway.
Has anyone worked out what is the new asset value of MAN compared to its share price?
It is clear that MAN is in trouble but then, how low can the share price go before they imitate volatility of penny shares?
Which are the valuable assets which keep the company going on a daily basis?
These are basic questions in DYOR category but its nice to see other peoples opinions.
report thisMaverick
May 16, 2012 at 23:51
I fully accept that value investing has worked in the past. But as Smart Investor says, "The future is not the same as the past, and to pick certain shares because they have done well in the past is illogical."
I prefer to go for shares which are doing well now, and I feel what I need to get better at is selling the shares at the right time (I've just got a bloody nose from Lamprell . . . . . ).
Lamprell is probably a perfect example of why buy-and-hold doesn't work any more. Yet I do wonder whether I would have found out about the profit warning earlier than today even if I'd been looking for it (which I wasn't).
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